tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-89370029891488237202024-03-20T19:22:53.537-07:00marriedpriests.comVIRI PROBATI PATHWAY: Grant dispensations, if bishops ask, starting with married deacons with a fruitful ministry to ordain as priests (salary: $0) after formation, using Canon 1047 (while respecting the Latin Rite celibacy norm).
Married Priesthoodhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14238013437314974645noreply@blogger.comBlogger263125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8937002989148823720.post-68897085542092270132023-04-17T19:34:00.002-07:002023-04-17T19:34:50.410-07:00Posted on @Synod_va Twitter Page: "Veni Sancte Spiritus! Your Holiness/Eminences/Excellencies, Brothers & Sisters, please remember the requests for the ordination of married deacons to the priesthood of Jesus Christ, if bishops ask it for their Dioceses. Grazie mille. Our Lady, Queen of the Clergy, pray for us."<p>Posted on @Synod_va Twitter Page:</p><p>Veni Sancte Spiritus!</p><p>Your Holiness/Eminences/Excellencies, Brothers & Sisters, please remember the requests for the ordination of married deacons to the priesthood of Jesus Christ, if bishops ask it for their Dioceses.</p><p>Grazie mille.</p><p>Our Lady, Queen of the Clergy, pray for us.</p><p><br /></p><p>In response to request for prayer from:</p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhJmjfMXw9LfqghTTwNeveclQws-40arzo_O3FBL6sZq4EAFYjKRU9nJOmyChhznOACo1b-z57qlAME--FyW42oiGeQ2ANHgNaLJVSp9s9SzhVH7eOTkDVgJeTnkHF0xwFrU5HJPD0tOfyGrcPDJ_HcpdH_GxFWW5X9kyNt7kEeJvBx0Jq7MNet1-N8ww/s400/20230417_020159.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="400" data-original-width="400" height="320" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhJmjfMXw9LfqghTTwNeveclQws-40arzo_O3FBL6sZq4EAFYjKRU9nJOmyChhznOACo1b-z57qlAME--FyW42oiGeQ2ANHgNaLJVSp9s9SzhVH7eOTkDVgJeTnkHF0xwFrU5HJPD0tOfyGrcPDJ_HcpdH_GxFWW5X9kyNt7kEeJvBx0Jq7MNet1-N8ww/s320/20230417_020159.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><br /><p><br /></p><p> </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiViMJuBsY4mcFw4aLkwo0OKLWpZva7pJnaR8a-r5y67fjAX6CI6iu9Px5HLsXl5OqljPxJWhTXT9ViqpVqHnNbT7juh3-8inIS6Xehstlp4fL6RRXcDDFufgrRHwWu8bA7TpJ4gb95JKIMxPxaDZCLTe1mDxFMHwG0C-HUyg0AEfNVhxoFQ-FuHe5aXA/s1080/20230417_015911.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1080" data-original-width="1080" height="320" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiViMJuBsY4mcFw4aLkwo0OKLWpZva7pJnaR8a-r5y67fjAX6CI6iu9Px5HLsXl5OqljPxJWhTXT9ViqpVqHnNbT7juh3-8inIS6Xehstlp4fL6RRXcDDFufgrRHwWu8bA7TpJ4gb95JKIMxPxaDZCLTe1mDxFMHwG0C-HUyg0AEfNVhxoFQ-FuHe5aXA/s320/20230417_015911.jpg" width="320" /></a></div><br /><p>In response to the following request </p><p>"Join us in prayer for the experts starting the reflection that will lead to the drafting of the working document for the Synodal Assembly of October 2023, asking for the guidance, wisdom and inspiration of the Holy Spirit. #PrayerRequest #Synod #InstrumentumLaboris #PeopleofGod"</p>Married Priesthoodhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14238013437314974645noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8937002989148823720.post-63068438656523999842023-04-16T04:19:00.004-07:002023-05-12T22:20:49.451-07:00Melkite Patriarch, Council Father, to Pope Paul VI Advocating For Married Latin Rite Priests During the Second Vatican Council: "But perhaps the time has come when, through the will of the Church..the Eastern tradition [of married priests] might be useful to the universal Church"; "The Catholic West does not yet seem disposed to make such a radical change in discipline, but one will go slowly with all the necessary prudence, after the experience of the married deacons authorized by the Council" (1965). <div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjJCDphE1O2_iY1kZ4DBhrA4kbRk7NOBy9kEdcNLSEQcU67YbcYkdLdqRduZ8FUDTFQlfuIHZ84nCpViXJXKDU_2IL9ljl2gkt70--U2jeyevODPik17JO_atRcGxOHv5VDs8QEW95JAl5-hfswoN57tWPQX0uR79xQFiJ2w1EEYULQlePSenHyJHQ9dg/s300/4-243x300.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="300" data-original-width="243" height="300" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjJCDphE1O2_iY1kZ4DBhrA4kbRk7NOBy9kEdcNLSEQcU67YbcYkdLdqRduZ8FUDTFQlfuIHZ84nCpViXJXKDU_2IL9ljl2gkt70--U2jeyevODPik17JO_atRcGxOHv5VDs8QEW95JAl5-hfswoN57tWPQX0uR79xQFiJ2w1EEYULQlePSenHyJHQ9dg/s1600/4-243x300.jpg" width="243" /></a></div><p>Maximos IV Sayegh, Father at Second Vatican Council, Patriarch of Melkite Greek Catholic Church, 1947-67. Cardinal. Worked for Catholic & Eastern Orthodox Churches unity. </p><p>Text intended for Council Fathers (not delivered) </p><p>& </p><p><span style="font-size: 16px;">Letter to Paul VI advocating for married Latin rite priests (delivered)</span></p><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: 16px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;">***</div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: 16px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;"><br /></div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: 16px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;">Excerpt from Text for Council Fathers (not delivered):</div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: 16px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;"><br /></div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;">"Christian East has also preserved, for the good of the universal Church, a parallel tradition that is founded quite as much on Scripture, the Apostles, and the Fathers. And this tradition, at the moment and in the countries where the Church deems it appropriate, can be invoked in order to support a turning point in history that will perhaps be made necessary by the changing circumstances of time, place, and persons.</div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;"><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;"><br /></div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;">.....<div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;"><br /></div>While justifying the Eastern tradition, I cannot but admire the lofty morality of the parallel tradition of the West. But perhaps the time has come when, through the will of the Church, and wherever it may chose, the Eastern tradition might be useful to the universal Church.</div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;"><br /></div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;">I conclude: granted that our thinking is not yet sufficiently mature for definitive decisions, we propose the creation of <span style="font-size: 16px;">a post-conciliar commission for the study of this serious problem that concerns in the highest degree the very life of the Church. We believe that a pure and simple return to the ancient and authentic tradition of the Church would be welcomed both by informed lay Christians </span>and by the clergy open to the realities of life. This will bring peace of soul and freedom of conscience."</div></div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;"><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;"><br /></div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;">-Text above intended for Council Fathers but was sent to Pope Paul VI instead. </div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;"><br /></div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;">-----</div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;"><br /></div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;">Excerpt from Patriarch letter below to Paul VI which was sent along with text above:</div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;"><br /></div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;">"The Catholic West does not yet seem disposed to make such a radical change in discipline, but one will go slowly with all the necessary prudence, after the experience of the married deacons authorized by the Council.</div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;"><br /></div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;">All that I ask of Your Holiness, in order to obey a serious imperative of my conscience, is that the door not be systematically & irreversibly closed.</div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;"><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;"><br /></div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;">With this trust, I humbly kiss Your hands, imploring Your paternal & apostolic blessing."</div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;"><br /></div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;">*Pope Paul VI created His Eminent Beatitude Maximos IV Sayegh a Cardinal in Feb. 1965. Patriarch eventually accepted.</div></div></div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;"><br /></div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: 16px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;">Source: https://melkite.org/faith/faith-worship/chapter-8#Priesthood_and_Celibacy</div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: 16px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;"><br /></div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: 16px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;">---</div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: 16px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;"><br /></div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: 16px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;">This blog originally posted on Oct 26, 2019 here:</div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: 16px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;"><br /></div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: 16px; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-top: 0px; margin: 0px;">https://marriedpriesthood.blogspot.com/2019/10/melkite-patriarch-to-pope-paul-vi.html?m=1 </div><div><br /></div><b></b>Married Priesthoodhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14238013437314974645noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8937002989148823720.post-20213206072939071542023-04-04T21:34:00.012-07:002023-04-04T23:43:43.643-07:00"I think we’ve exhausted the [continence] topic, and people are now resorting to petty personal squabbling. Enough." - Deacon Greg Kandra from "The Deacon's Bench" (2012)<p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj7A6vEW7TNmBjvPDUZM1qmR-NNmOwAS4BdnFCBtK3huGdEy-FVJf9q1VGsOWH44xOqsTNKFdog0iT8Vm9pb0wor98g7xZUeXVnmqnBjKUznyC4wsAegOQmFJZHpUWrQHCiCg9cdVKG7_hchLAo9qDMdrpjbpddkycqU3XbDtGbdoWZgGIPBDjsgQBbiw/s90/Digest-Icon-Book_Club%20(1).png" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="90" data-original-width="90" height="90" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj7A6vEW7TNmBjvPDUZM1qmR-NNmOwAS4BdnFCBtK3huGdEy-FVJf9q1VGsOWH44xOqsTNKFdog0iT8Vm9pb0wor98g7xZUeXVnmqnBjKUznyC4wsAegOQmFJZHpUWrQHCiCg9cdVKG7_hchLAo9qDMdrpjbpddkycqU3XbDtGbdoWZgGIPBDjsgQBbiw/s1600/Digest-Icon-Book_Club%20(1).png" width="90" /></a></div><p align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0in; text-align: center;"><br /></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Source (<i>The Deacon's Bench</i>): </span><span style="color: blue; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; font-size: 12pt;"><a href="https://www.patheos.com/blogs/deaconsbench/2012/05/married-deacons-its-okay-you-can-have-sex-with-your-wives/">https://www.patheos.com/blogs/deaconsbench/2012/05/married-deacons-its-okay-you-can-have-sex-with-your-wives/</a></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;">"I think we’ve exhausted the topic, and people are now
resorting to petty personal squabbling. Enough." - Deacon Greg
Kandra<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;">Matter addressed ad infinitum in the early 2000s by an earlier generation of national deacon leaders. Thank you! Saltpepper still not needed.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Also, see Deacon David A. Lopez, Ph.D., for basic summary of old conversation (</span><i style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; font-size: 12pt;">Sioux City Deacon Formation)</i><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; font-size: 12pt;">: </span><a href="https://siouxcitydeacon.blogspot.com/2011/01/diaconal-continence-and-canon-277-there.html" style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; font-size: 12pt;">https://siouxcitydeacon.blogspot.com/2011/01/diaconal-continence-and-canon-277.html</a></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;">What's new since then (2012) is that theological and historical foundations which served as Dr. Peters's theological sources (+Stickler et al) have been rebutted, thanks to the East with a history of noncontinent married priesthood going to the Apostolic era.</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;">The discipline of celibacy-continence, mandated beginning in the 4th Century, is no longer being expected for Latin Rite married clerics since Pius XII in the 20th Century. </p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman", serif; font-size: 12pt;">______________________________________</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;">Memorandum <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;">To: All Bishops <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;">From: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;">Most Reverend Robert J. Carlson Chairman, Committee on Clergy,
Consecrated Life and Vocations<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;">Most Reverend Timothy P. Broglio Chairman, Committee on
Canonical Affairs and Church Governance <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;">Date: January 31, 2012 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;">Re: Married Permanent Deacons and the Canonical Obligation
to Observe Perfect and Perpetual Continence<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;">Your Eminence/Excellency,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;">In recent months, published opinions have appeared in
scholarly journals and on Internet blogs that have raised questions about
the observance of diaconal continence by married permanent deacons in the
Latin Catholic Church. The opinions have suggested that the
clerical obligation to observe “perfect and perpetual continence for the
sake of the kingdom of heaven” (c. 277, §1 CIC) remains binding upon
married permanent deacons, despite the dispensation provided to them in
canon law from the obligation to observe celibacy (c. 1042, 1° CIC).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;">In response to repeated requests for an authoritative
clarification on this matter, the Committee on Clergy, Consecrated Life
and Vocations and the Committee on Canonical Affairs and Church Governance
requested the assistance of the USCCB President in seeking a clarification from
the Pontifical Council for Legislative Texts.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;">Earlier this week, we were informed that Cardinal-designate
Francesco Coccopalmerio, President of the Pontifical Council for
Legislative Texts, with Bishop Juan Ignacio Arrieta, Secretary, has
forwarded to Cardinal-designate Timothy M. Dolan the Pontifical
Council’s observations on the matter (Prot. N. 13095/2011). The
observations, which were formulated in consultation with the Congregation
for the Doctrine of the Faith, clarify that <b>married
permanent deacons are not bound to observe perfect and perpetual
continence, as long as their marriage lasts.</b><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;">Should you have any questions about this response, please
contact Reverend W. Shawn McKnight, Executive Director of the Secretariat
of Clergy, Consecrated Life, and Vocations. In addition, please feel free
to share this response with those within your diocesan curia who will find
it helpful.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;">_____________________________________</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;"><br /></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;">Pontificium Consilium De Legum Textibus Citta del Vaticano,
4 marzo 2011 N. 12959/2011<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;">(<a href="http://www.canonlaw.info/PDF-Coccopalmerio.pdf">Unofficial Translation</a>) Pontifical Council for Legislative Texts<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;">Dear Sir,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;">We have received a fax of your kind letter of February 20th, 2011. In it
you proposed a dubium with this reasoning: "However an issue has arisen
where an aspirant to the Permanent Deaconate who is a married man has declared
he will not practice 'perfect and perpetual continence' in accordance with
Canon 277. He says he has been told that men in the diocese have been given a
general dispensation from this requirement."<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;">In regard to this matter I am happy to offer the following
clarifications:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;">The obligation of celibacy applies to all clerics, including permanent deacons
who are not married prior to ordination (cf. c. 1037).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;">Permanent deacons who are married prior to ordination do not have the
obli- gation of celibacy (and therefore of continence) during the marriage.
They have the obligation of celibacy in case of widowhood (cf. c. 1087).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;">This is why canon 277 is not included in the list in canon 288.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-margin-top-alt: auto;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;">Finally, the dispensation from the impediment of canon 1087 does not
apply to the diocesan bishop. He can, instead, given the case in question,
transmit the request for a dispensation to the Holy See. The dispensation can
be requested only of the Holy See by a permanent married deacon who has been
widowed and will be eventually granted only if the petitioner admits one of
three reasons: the great and proven usefulness of the deacon's ministry to the
diocese to which he is attached; the presence of children of a tender age
requiring maternal care; the presence of elderly parents or in-laws requiring
assistance (cf. Congregation for Divine Worship & Discipline of the Sacraments,
Circular Letter of June 6, 1997).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 0in;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;">+Francesco
Coccopalmerio <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="background: white; line-height: normal; margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 12pt; mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; mso-ligatures: none;">President<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman",serif; font-size: 12pt; line-height: 107%;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><br /><p></p>Married Priesthoodhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14238013437314974645noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8937002989148823720.post-74982349895234402512023-04-03T16:56:00.005-07:002023-04-04T21:41:16.700-07:00Viri Probati (2005): Italian Website Asks Pope for Viri Probati (Ordained Married Elderly Men to Work Alongside Ordained Younger Celibate Men)<p></p><div style="text-align: center;"> <a href="http://www.viriprobati.it/">http://www.viriprobati.it/</a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhd8VRqt7WiDvhPOQ252Dvir0sTWvO64H7eFhKu9p6ylcGRq4FQU2YqWj_9poMdeK6PYaiW9T3e2aVttH4m71w2jb9OHgYb0H6cN2S3U8hBsZBdPzcNhfgP7q-Mkj2wgcEmBZLb0NbrWk1W64x2WKOQLl3kEcV6NBsqNSmPmDZUXnkQeRg-tdRgVyckEg/s1200/flag-of-Italy.webp" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="800" data-original-width="1200" height="213" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhd8VRqt7WiDvhPOQ252Dvir0sTWvO64H7eFhKu9p6ylcGRq4FQU2YqWj_9poMdeK6PYaiW9T3e2aVttH4m71w2jb9OHgYb0H6cN2S3U8hBsZBdPzcNhfgP7q-Mkj2wgcEmBZLb0NbrWk1W64x2WKOQLl3kEcV6NBsqNSmPmDZUXnkQeRg-tdRgVyckEg/s320/flag-of-Italy.webp" width="320" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p>Excerpt from TRANSLATION of <a href="http://www.ViriProbati.it">www.viriprobati.it</a> into English (please pardon the formatting issues):</p><p><b style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; text-align: -webkit-center;">Why this site</b><br style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; text-align: -webkit-center;" /><br style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; text-align: -webkit-center;" /><span face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="font-size: 14px; text-align: -webkit-center; vertical-align: inherit;">This site is a modest study but the result of long reflections, studies and interviews with expert people and priests who welcomed the principles set out despite the perplexities due to the times of the Church. It is useful that this study stimulates the reflection of other prepared people and competent: priests, theologians, simple faithful, etc. to perfect what is exposed in the vision of a Church closer to the primitive model often reported by the Magisterium.</span><br style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; text-align: -webkit-center;" /><span face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="font-size: 14px; text-align: -webkit-center; vertical-align: inherit;">As you can see, the inspiring principles of the celibacy of priests in general but the roles and state of life of ministers ordained in the two fundamental conditions for the existence of the Church: true elderly priests also married for local life and young ministers celibate apostles of the itinerant Kingdom for the loving and continuous visit of the Churches and the re-evangelization of the world.</span></p><p><span face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="font-size: 14px; text-align: -webkit-center; vertical-align: inherit;"><br /></span></p><h2><span style="vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">LETTER to the SYNOD of the BISHOVI 2005</span></span></h2><p><span face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="font-size: 14px; text-align: -webkit-center; vertical-align: inherit;"><b style="text-align: start;"></b><br style="text-align: start;" /><br style="text-align: start;" /><span style="text-align: start; vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">04-10-05</span></span><br style="text-align: start;" /><br style="text-align: start;" /><span style="text-align: start; vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">To Archbishop Nikola Eterovic,</span></span><br style="text-align: start;" /><span style="text-align: start; vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Secretary General of the Synod of Bishops</span></span><br style="text-align: start;" /><span style="text-align: start; vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">00120 Vatican City RM</span></span><br style="text-align: start;" /><br style="text-align: start;" /><br style="text-align: start;" /><span style="text-align: start; vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">I am sending you a letter with this letter which I beg you to come to the reflections of the Bishops and therefore half of yours to the Holy Father in that he offers, in my opinion, to the vocational crisis, a serious reflection on the need to extend the presbyteral ministry to the elderly by revisiting theologically passages of the Holy Scripture and tradition of which I speak in the letter. After reflection, prayer and contacts with prepared priests I believe that such a significant topic in the Eucharist cannot be overlooked.</span></span><br style="text-align: start;" /><span style="text-align: start; vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">I believe in his charity and benevolence to receive a welcome response.</span></span><br style="text-align: start;" /><br style="text-align: start;" /><span style="text-align: start; vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Devoutly in Christ</span></span><br style="text-align: start;" /><span style="text-align: start; vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Oliviero Gulot</span></span><br style="text-align: start;" /><br style="text-align: start;" /><br style="text-align: start;" /><b style="text-align: start;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">1st Letter to His Holiness Benedict XVI</span></span></b><br style="text-align: start;" /><br style="text-align: start;" /><span style="text-align: start; vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">attached to the previous Synod of Bishops with hope of delivery</span></span><br style="text-align: start;" /><br style="text-align: start;" /><br style="text-align: start;" /><span style="text-align: start; vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">04/10/05</span></span><br style="text-align: start;" /><br style="text-align: start;" /><span style="text-align: start; vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">To His Holiness</span></span><br style="text-align: start;" /><span style="text-align: start; vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Benedict XVI</span></span><br style="text-align: start;" /><span style="text-align: start; vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Vatican City</span></span><br style="text-align: start;" /><span style="text-align: start; vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">00100 ROME RM</span></span><br style="text-align: start;" /><br style="text-align: start;" /><br style="text-align: start;" /><span style="text-align: start; vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Holiness,</span></span><br style="text-align: start;" /><span style="text-align: start; vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">I am a family man and grandfather with a priest son. Allow me to write them without presumption and in all humility because an inner zeal for the Church has tormented me for years for the lack of vocations and priests, who will prove dramatic as of now and even more in a few years. If, as you said recently, there are no magical solutions to the problem, certainly the Lord is not deaf to ours prayers and, perhaps, the scribes of the Kingdom of Heaven choosing? new and ancient things ” could find a solution reflecting on the realities of our times, where we often witness uncomfortable situations, if not in crisis, of many priests left alone and of communities without their constant presence.I believe not to be alone to beg you so that with the grace of your great theological knowledge and experience reconsider a better suitability of this ministry than in the words of the S. Writing, neglect over time and unjustly relegated as if they were contingent facts, they inform of a ministry born with the elderly ( presbyters ) but now, practically, proposed only to young people.</span></span><br style="text-align: start;" /><span style="text-align: start; vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">These are the main questions that times seem to suggest:</span></span><br style="text-align: start;" /><span style="text-align: start; vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">- respecting the Tradition and the call to excellence of the priesthood of young "eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven ", generous and enthusiastic, it is not fair to think that they deserve much more than usual educational substitute service with young people in the parishes?</span></span><br style="text-align: start;" /><span style="text-align: start; vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">- the term presbyter is not a reminder, first of all, of wisdom in piety and experience of the elderly with family? When the first communities "breaked bread in houses" who, if not the boss family or an elderly person did this? Not ignoring the call of the apostle Paul: ".. if one he cannot direct his family as he will be able to take care of the Church of God "they were therefore put in charge of the Communities themselves.</span></span><br style="text-align: start;" /><span style="text-align: start; vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">- then, why not extend the ministry to prepared and solid faith elders? Of course they were not missing ministers then! Why should they miss us today? In the Middle Ages, the Church did not resolve serious ones then problems ordering "viri probati"?</span></span><br style="text-align: start;" /><span style="text-align: start; vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">There is no wrong to the celibacy of young people with a ministry redundant to the elderly. We have in ours community many pious and intellectually prepared people who need only a short, even if indispensable, specific study in the ministry. Furthermore economically independent of the Church because chosen over sixty years and cared for by wives or children.</span></span><br style="text-align: start;" /><span style="text-align: start; vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Your Holiness, these things have been exposed to several prepared priests and scholars and nobody has placed reservations except on the times; indeed, some also appreciated them because they would improve the relationship with people and, in my opinion, allowed young celibate priests to devote themselves to true evangelization in the ministry of "episcopo-inspector" necessary, in this case, for the sure increase in attendance and vitality in the Church.</span></span><br style="text-align: start;" /><br style="text-align: start;" /><span style="text-align: start; vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Forgive me if I dared to write to you, but I hope the present can reach you through those people that are of help and overcome, so, every just and responsible control, I can, for benevolence, receive a welcome feedback.</span></span><br style="text-align: start;" /><br style="text-align: start;" /><span style="text-align: start; vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">I offer my prayers for the Lord to enlighten you and always support you in the guidance of the Church. I devoutly greet you. </span></span></span></p><p><span face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="font-size: 14px; text-align: -webkit-center; vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="text-align: start; vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">His in Christ.</span></span><br style="text-align: start;" /><span style="text-align: start; vertical-align: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: inherit;">Oliviero Gulot</span></span><br style="text-align: start;" /></span></p><br />Married Priesthoodhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14238013437314974645noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8937002989148823720.post-58157144073744000762023-04-01T19:15:00.003-07:002023-04-16T04:25:35.569-07:00@peterdavids (2020): "If [celibacy-continence] were essential to Holy Orders, then both the Pastoral Provision of Pope St John Paul II and the Personal Ordinariates of Pope Benedict XVI would have been problematic...Unification with the Orthodox as a whole would be a lost cause." w/my Commentary<p><br /></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj0_jUpNHHnv_CXHG0NYDPPWh8L5eq3dNKF0QtjtYNHQVlFVqpkL5K5z-Yzeay2j8UUnQ1oHZxODV7hn1ri-E85_CJYJp8cNv6aToUZ6dDgMm7LdgwZ0wSMz9uzSv-f4orQuYd0hVY4oZZ7v4Oz30e21q7f1kHiEKs_dKb9-d88h12PruJYuB_ZjFvR7Q/s92/avatar92.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="92" data-original-width="92" height="92" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEj0_jUpNHHnv_CXHG0NYDPPWh8L5eq3dNKF0QtjtYNHQVlFVqpkL5K5z-Yzeay2j8UUnQ1oHZxODV7hn1ri-E85_CJYJp8cNv6aToUZ6dDgMm7LdgwZ0wSMz9uzSv-f4orQuYd0hVY4oZZ7v4Oz30e21q7f1kHiEKs_dKb9-d88h12PruJYuB_ZjFvR7Q/s1600/avatar92.jpg" width="92" /></a></div><br />Here is an excellent commentary on Henry Karlson's article on Paphnutius below from @peterdavids. Sounds like he is an Ordinariate priest with Eastern Rite faculties. Wow! Talk about catholicity.<div><br /></div><div>I highlighted the part that caught my eye the most. As usual, like most Ordinariate priests, of course, he will not disparage the Latin celibacy norm. He will not bite the hand that feeds him, so to speak, which is different when a baptized and confirmed Latin Rite Catholic reflects on mandated celibacy as the modern norm. </div><div><br /></div><div>I hate to phrase it like this, but if those who insist on celibacy-continence for married deacons and married priests where they "have to" refrain from conjugal rights with their wives, then Father's analysis applies: "Unification with the Orthodox as a whole would be a lost cause" and attracting Anglican/Episcopalian priests would also be "problematic" and thus not draw Anglicans, Episcopalians et al. to the Ordinariate and home to the Catholic Church. The Ontologicalists are those who say, "Well, married priests, okay, but they *have to* be continent." To insist on celibacy-continence as essential or ontological to the priesthood and diaconate is like another embarrassing Ed Peters debacle after 2005 that married Latin rite permanent deacons had to endure. Well, that was short-lived, from 2005 to at least the 2009 Ordinariate creation where celibacy-continence was not expected of converts to the Catholic priesthood. No one, no one among the married Anglican/Episcopalian clergy, among the married Orthodox clergy, among the married Latin Rite clergy (i.e., permanent deacons) would in their right mind want to embrace continence of their own choosing which is just another disingenuous, backdoor sneaking in of celibacy for married clergy as ontological and then calling it apostolic tradition after making a "bit of a stretch" argument which only goes back to Pope Siricius in 385 A.D.</div><div><br /></div><div>If God does will Viri Probati married priests to return to the Latin Rite, then it was necessary for these debates to emerge so that the truth of the priesthood may shine all the more brightly for a Church united according to the mind of Christ. Thank goodness that Henry Karlson and Fr. Davids see through the Ontologicalists.</div><div><br /></div><div>That SOME married priests had to be continent in the first centuries does not mean ALL married priests had to be continent in the first centuries.</div><div>That SOME local bishops legislated continence for married priests does not mean ALL bishops universally required continence for married priests.</div><div>That SOME Jewish priests were continent in the Old Law does not mean that ALL Christian priests need to be continent in the New Law. The celibacy-continence debates in the Church today are similar to the heated circumcision debates of the early Church. </div><div>The very fact that celibacy-continence is debatable and not a closed theological issue shows that it is not universally held Apostolic Tradition for all time and for all places.</div><div>A non-continent married priesthood is immemorial tradition.</div><div>Married priests are the ancient Latin norm. Mandated celibacy-continence is the modern Latin norm. </div><div><br /></div><div>As Henry Karlson wrote, the disciplines of celibacy-continence <a href="https://marriedpriesthood.blogspot.com/2020/05/celibacy-not-essential-to-priesthood-st.html">"were not universal"</a> (2020).</div><div>Mike Lewis wrote, "+Sarah's writing might tap into some venerable ideas, but from a practical/disciplinary standpoint, they're of little relevance to the current situation" (2020).</div><div>As Sandro Magister stated, the continence is <a href="https://marriedpriesthood.blogspot.com/2019/10/sandro-magister-continence-no-longer.html">"no longer being asked"</a> (2019) in West and East.</div><div>It makes those who insist on celibacy-continence among married clergy "look foolish." </div><div>As Dr. David Howard observes, they "fight for a discipline like it's Dogma" (2021).</div><div>Discipline does not determine theology. Theology determines discipline.</div><div>So forward. Forward to a fuller expression of the Priesthood of Jesus Christ understood as Celibate and Married.</div><div><a href="https://marriedpriesthood.blogspot.com/2019/11/wife-of-priest-is-in-persona-ecclesiae.html">Just as the Church is both Virgin & Mother, so too Christ is both Celibate & Married</a>.</div><div><br /></div><div><p></p><p>As Fr. Davids wrote, "If [celibacy-continence] were essential to Holy Orders, then both the Pastoral Provision of Pope St John Paul II and the Personal Ordinariates of Pope Benedict XVI would have been problematic...Unification with the Orthodox as a whole would be a lost cause."</p><p>Source: Peter Davids's (@peterdavids) commentary on https://www.patheos.com/blogs/henrykarlson/2020/01/clerical-celibacy-not-essential-to-orders/ (citation cut and downloaded on 04/01/2023)</p><p><span style="background-color: #fcff01;"><span face="Roboto, sans-serif" style="color: #2a2e2e; font-size: 15px;">Interesting, </span><span face="Roboto, sans-serif" style="color: #2a2e2e; font-size: 15px;">and</span></span><span face="Roboto, sans-serif" style="color: #2a2e2e; font-size: 15px;"><span style="background-color: #fcff01;"> true. If it were essential to Holy Orders, then both the Pastoral Provision of Pope St John Paul II and the Personal Ordinariates of Pope Benedict XVI would have been problematic, for both allowed married non-Catholic clergy to come into the Catholic Church and be ordained as priests. Likewise the various Orthodox communities who have unified with Rome (I have faculties in the Byzantine Catholic Church, for instance, although ordained in the Latin Rite) who have an unbroken tradition of ordaining men who were married previous to their ordination (although bishops must be celibates) would be illegitimate. Unification with the Orthodox as a whole would be a lost cause.</span> Finally, not only do we have the historical discussion above, but the fact (at least according to St Paul) that Peter and "the other apostles" were married and their wives traveled with them. Thus it was not essential for them. But, given that, I and many, perhaps all, other married Ordinariate clergy I have talked with, am/are strong supporters of the discipline that normally priests should be celibate. While thankful for the provision made for us who came late to this vocation, we realize (and in my case and others with whom I have talked, our wives as well) that to be a married Catholic priest means being married to two "women," the Church and one's wife. Paul wisely points to the stresses that that would create in 1 Cor 7. We had to count the cost and then live with the cost afterwards. When Cardinal DiNardo, in the recessional after he ordained me, stopped by my wife's pew, kissed her on both cheeks, and said, "Thank you for giving your husband to the Church." He expressed what we would later live. I live in thankfulness for the unusual privilege that I have and I would not change my response to God's call to ordination in the Catholic Church even if I could. But I also advise those who might qualify under the pastoral provision or the Personal Ordinariates to look seriously and soberly at what ordination in the Catholic Church would mean and, together with their wives, to count the cost. And, when the conversation comes up with my celibate brother priests, I encourage them to be thankful for the blessing of their celibacy, that they heard the call as Catholics and early enough that they could respond within the discipline of celibacy, despite its admitted hardships. I am glad that with disciplines (versus with something that is the essence of a sacrament) there can be exceptions, relatively rare though they are, but I am thankful that the normal discipline arose, both because of the historical problems it addressed when it became the norm in the Latin West, and because of the practical blessings that it brings.</span></p></div>Married Priesthoodhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14238013437314974645noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8937002989148823720.post-75761999951875720452023-03-31T17:48:00.011-07:002023-04-01T12:55:41.654-07:00Synod on Eucharist in 2005: 4 of 12 Bishop Working Groups Called For Study on Viri Probati Married Priests; Papable Cardinal Scola of Venice Reported Request for Viri Probati to Pope w/Reply From Now Papable Cardinal Tagle of Manila Who Said, "We should face squarely the issue of the shortage of priests." <div><br /></div><div><span face="Telex, sans-serif" style="color: black; font-size: 14px; letter-spacing: normal;"><br /></span></div><div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh0_d2FbZDqz6zTlnZlKQRBpJnnKxlSvxYuon7_bS6Ls7b24HKRrgpyh29dZ_DzYEvBr7cS4A7iPJvdDlUNIo-04Snhg7DjtGi29eUSXB8FTy5HsJheoyKHIvw4QMvLq2tMYDT-WCgQ0_Mc2WZLod5Lm5te5bNKA87qZ5SesEgxwsxlcAN2FG03c0wwwA/s1200/scola_a_nn-965x1536.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1200" data-original-width="754" height="320" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEh0_d2FbZDqz6zTlnZlKQRBpJnnKxlSvxYuon7_bS6Ls7b24HKRrgpyh29dZ_DzYEvBr7cS4A7iPJvdDlUNIo-04Snhg7DjtGi29eUSXB8FTy5HsJheoyKHIvw4QMvLq2tMYDT-WCgQ0_Mc2WZLod5Lm5te5bNKA87qZ5SesEgxwsxlcAN2FG03c0wwwA/s320/scola_a_nn-965x1536.jpg" width="201" /></a></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjGUZMHv2Bbxds7vn40sluC8a0fqsyv7GD6rgwTKsfcd9ijlIN3v9ouPJ-jLrIRdVcLsP_Uc02afgzX3ryEFapoUZCQZ4MBVvRZjKG4JDOLj3DHyM1amAaRn90bu6G3vGYnXMiW5P54sXpBMrtFduSSrxA67OFczA1I-ychQSbk0DnE1Q9fi6oiViXZkA/s426/1593055214439530-0.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="426" data-original-width="320" height="320" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjGUZMHv2Bbxds7vn40sluC8a0fqsyv7GD6rgwTKsfcd9ijlIN3v9ouPJ-jLrIRdVcLsP_Uc02afgzX3ryEFapoUZCQZ4MBVvRZjKG4JDOLj3DHyM1amAaRn90bu6G3vGYnXMiW5P54sXpBMrtFduSSrxA67OFczA1I-ychQSbk0DnE1Q9fi6oiViXZkA/s320/1593055214439530-0.jpg" width="240" /></a></div></div><div><div style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-size: 13.2px;"><br /></span></div><div style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-size: 13.2px;">https://marriedpriesthood.blogspot.com/2019/12/cardinal-tagle-we-should-face-squarely.html?m=1</span></div><div style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;"><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">---</div><div style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;"><br /></div><div style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif;">Excerpt:</div><div style="background-color: white;"><p style="color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 13.2px;">Cardinal Angelo Scola of Venice, Italy, the <i>relator</i> (meaning roughly “moderator”) for the synod, started the celibacy discussion in his 52-page <i>Relatio ante disceptationem</i>, a synthesis of comments from around the world sent in prior to the synod.</p><p style="color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 13.2px;">Without identifying which bishops supported the measure, Scola reported that some synod participants had “put forward the request to ordain married faithful of proven faith and virtue, the so-called <i>viri probati</i>.’ ”</p><p style="color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 13.2px;">Scola himself expressed reservations about a change in the celibacy requirement, but drew a quick response from Bishop Luis Antonio G. Tagle of Imus, Philippines. “In the absence of the priest, there is no Eucharist. We should face squarely the issue of the shortage of priests,” he said.</p><p><span face="Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif" style="color: #222222;"><span style="font-size: 13.2px;"><span face="Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif" style="color: #222222;">Source: </span><a href="http://natcath.org/NCR_Online/archives2/2005d/101405/101405p.php" style="color: #cc6611; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; text-decoration-line: none;">http://natcath.org/NCR_Online/archives2/2005d/101405/101405p.php</a><span face="Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif" style="color: #222222;"> (21 Dec. 2019)</span></span></span></p><p style="color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 13.2px;">---</p><p style="color: #222222; font-family: Arial, Tahoma, Helvetica, FreeSans, sans-serif; font-size: 13.2px;"><span style="color: black; font-family: "Times New Roman"; font-size: medium;">Excerpt: </span></p><div><span face="Telex, sans-serif" style="color: black; font-size: 14px;">This effort builds on our earlier work at the </span><a href="https://www.futurechurch.org/fpm/corpus/" style="color: #7586a5; font-family: Telex, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; text-decoration-line: none; transition: color 300ms ease 0s;">International Synod on the Eucharist in 2005</a><span face="Telex, sans-serif" style="color: black; font-size: 14px;"> where the priest shortage dominated the agenda and four of twelve bishop small groups asked for further study of married priests.</span></div><div><span face="Telex, sans-serif" style="color: black; font-size: 14px;"><br /></span></div><div><span face="Telex, sans-serif" style="color: black; font-size: 14px;"><div>Source: <a href="https://www.futurechurch.org/future-of-priestly-ministry/optional-celibacy">https://www.futurechurch.org/future-of-priestly-ministry/optional-celibacy</a> (27 May 2020)</div><div><br style="font-size: medium;" /></div></span></div></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><br /></div><br /><span face="Telex, sans-serif" style="color: black; font-size: 14px; letter-spacing: normal;"><br /></span></div>Married Priesthoodhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14238013437314974645noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8937002989148823720.post-58521645499271756552023-03-28T00:30:00.002-07:002023-04-22T12:48:35.482-07:00Former Anglican priest convert to Catholic Faith and U.S. Army Maj. Ken Bolin, brigade chaplain for the 4th Brigade Combat Team (Airborne), 25th Infantry Division, gives his first blessing as an ordained married Catholic priest to Anchorage Archbishop Robert Schwietz at Our Lady of Guadalupe Parish March 7th<p> </p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjIE4OSuCPcteqY1QdYy-tUMxMcHYpfTydfwN77kDFdfYPKWOQz74e1xGdWw4tMGNhEeNe4u4cerl_biCSl-WgVaipZEdUiz2KKDNibJ_x1G1O4Wh-F0BS3d-IrQ263YZ7pHfL6wFGqCc0pSf0pJWSAlWrFqKvVnH4BG4Iv3sb82EylfaEdKcrYPhVCxQ/s1204/Army_Chaplain_joins_priesthood_130307-A-ZD229-457.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1204" data-original-width="800" height="320" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjIE4OSuCPcteqY1QdYy-tUMxMcHYpfTydfwN77kDFdfYPKWOQz74e1xGdWw4tMGNhEeNe4u4cerl_biCSl-WgVaipZEdUiz2KKDNibJ_x1G1O4Wh-F0BS3d-IrQ263YZ7pHfL6wFGqCc0pSf0pJWSAlWrFqKvVnH4BG4Iv3sb82EylfaEdKcrYPhVCxQ/s320/Army_Chaplain_joins_priesthood_130307-A-ZD229-457.jpg" width="213" /></a></div><br /><p></p><p><br /></p><p><span style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #54595d; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 15.2px;">Former Anglican priest and U.S. Army Maj. Ken Bolin, brigade chaplain for the 4th Brigade Combat Team (Airborne), 25th Infantry Division, gives his first blessing as an ordained priest to Anchorage Archbishop Robert Schwietz at Our Lady of Guadalupe Parish March 7th. As an ordained priest, Bolin is authorized to celebrate both the standard Roman Missal Mass as well as the adapted Anglican Mass. Bolin is the newest of five married Catholic priests to currently serve in the chaplain corps on active duty in the U.S. Army. (Photo by U.S. Army Sgt. Eric-James Estrada) Unit: 4th Brigade Combat Team, 25th Infantry Division Public Affairs</span></p><p><span style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #54595d; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 15.2px;"><br /></span></p><p><span style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #54595d; font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 15.2px;">Source: </span><span style="color: #54595d; font-family: sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 15.2px;">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clerical_marriage (31 Jan. 2023)</span></span></p>Married Priesthoodhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14238013437314974645noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8937002989148823720.post-26661045933222297132023-03-23T14:52:00.028-07:002023-04-11T23:53:50.896-07:00Why the Blog Silence? Why the Blog Silence from 2020-2023? (Quo Vadis, Domine?)<p>Why the silence? </p><p>Why the silence between 2020-2023 on this blog? Three years. Silence.</p><p>Because we needed discernment. </p><p>Authentic discernment. </p><p><br /></p><p>Not politicking and in-fighting among the People of God. </p><p>Not parliamentary procedure and emotional ad hominems. As the Latin Rite studies the Viri Probati, we needed time after the local Amazon Synod.</p><p>Time.</p><p>To discern.</p><p>To pray.</p><p>To understand.</p><p>To listen to His sweet voice.</p><p>Your voice, Lord.</p><p>Not the devil's voice.</p><p><br /></p><p>Is this what He wants for His Church?</p><p>Viri Probati, Lord?</p><p>Restore tested older men?</p><p>Come, Holy Spirit!</p><p><br /></p><p>It's not to say that Pastoral Provision priests or Ordinariate Priests were not tested, Viri Probati. They were. Axios! They were found worthy. Tested men on a different pathway to the holy priesthood of Jesus Christ.</p><p>Tested.</p><p>By Benedict XVI.</p><p>By John Paul II.</p><p>By Paul VI.</p><p>By John XXIII and by the Second Vatican Council.</p><p>By Pius XII.</p><p><br /></p><p>It ain't just a Francis thing, folks!</p><p><br /></p><p>In the 20th Century, the world's bishops in union with the Successor of Peter in solemn Council voted to ***honor*** married clergy! </p><p>In <i>Prebyterorum Ordinis</i>.</p><p>Recognized. Validated. </p><p>Not tolerated.</p><p>By the Successor of Peter, John XXIII & Paul VI, and the 2,000+ Successors of the Apostles honored married men in Holy Orders. </p><p>What Catholic can argue with the Pope and 2,000+ Bishops in union with him in solemn Council?</p><p>20th Century Popes and even Latin Rite Bishops recognized married men in Holy Orders!</p><p>And without expectation of perpetual continence!</p><p>To esteem married men in Holy Orders after over eight centuries of mandated celibacy in Latin Rite. </p><p>Recognizing married clergy in the Latin Rite. Like the diaconate for married men. Over 2/3 of world's bishops restored the rank for Viri Probati.</p><p>A hermeneutic of continuity. The modern world. And the ancient world.</p><p>An unbroken succession.</p><p>To the Apostles.</p><p>To Melchizedek.</p><p><a href="https://marriedpriesthood.blogspot.com/2020/07/melchizedek-married-priest-king.html">Melchizedek, a married king-priest</a>.</p><p>Blessed day! </p><p><br /></p><p>Married priests in the Latin Rite perhaps opening up another pathway for full Communion between the Catholic and Orthodox Churches.</p><p>A moment of history.</p><p><br /></p><p>Our time.</p><p>Where Latin Rite Catholics do not disparage married men in Holy Orders. Finally. </p><p>Not second class clergy. Finally.</p><p>Yet honoring celibacy which has a place in the Latin Church. But not at the expense of denigrating married priests in the Latin Rite.</p><p><br /></p><p>A moment of history. That's why the Council happened.</p><p>In part perhaps. </p><p>For two lungs of the Mystical Body of Christ to breath again.</p><p>That the world may believe.</p><p><br /></p><p>And separated brethren in the West were given a pathway home to Rome. To Apostolic Tradition. To the priesthood that comes to us from the Twelve Apostles.</p><p>They were separated Protestant & Anglican brethren. Now, they are our Fathers in Christ. They are welcome. They are most welcome. And we love you, Fathers. Welcome home. Your home. Our home. Where you belong. Where your ordained ministry was tested. And approved. Tested men. Proven men. Like the East.</p><p><br /></p><p>But now, Latin Rite Catholics. Cradle Catholics. Baptized as infants. Confirmed in our youth. We respectfully ask the Successor of Peter.</p><p>The Cardinals and Bishops who are Successors of the Apostles. </p><p>For Viri Probati.</p><p>We respectfully ask.</p><p>We respectfully ask for married Catholic priests in the Latin Rite.</p><p>A pathway.</p><p>The Viri Probati pathway?</p><p>The simplex priests pathway?</p><p>Another pathway?</p><p><br /></p><p>Perhaps start with married deacons? There are 40,000 thousands of them. Already Viri Probati. Start with some or many fruitful ones. Already tested for diaconate. Apprentice them for the priesthood. </p><p>Married priests have to serve time as deacons first anyways. And celibate ones had to serve as deacons first. Before priesthood ordination, all priests have to serve in diaconate ordination first anyways.</p><p>So select some. Call some. Or many. As married priests.</p><p>Simple priests. </p><p>Viri Probati priests.</p><p>From married diaconate...</p><p>...to the married priesthood.</p><p>No need to salary them. </p><p>Like the deacons. No salary. But ministry.</p><p>Freely they received.</p><p>Freely they give.</p><p>They are successful with careers already. </p><p>Many hold advanced degrees. </p><p>Are retired. Are executives. Are leaders. Are followers. Are workers. At the lower level of the hierarchy.</p><p>With successes and failures in life.</p><p>Life experience. Some with great grandchildren.</p><p>They cover their own health insurance and retirement. Not a financial drain on the local Diocese.</p><p>SCANDALS are less than 1% among the married deacons. Divorce rate is less than 1% among the married deacons.</p><p>But most importantly, they are tested. Older men. </p><p>Like the early Apostolic age and the early Church.</p><p>Ressourcement..</p><p>Elders.</p><p>Fathers in Christ.</p><p><br /></p><p>Thousands entered the permanent diaconate with no intention of pursuing the priesthood. None.</p><p>But now. If God wills. </p><p>Through His Church, call some. Or many. Case by case. Up to the local bishop. Up to the regional bishops? Up to the Holy See? Up to the Supreme Pontiff. </p><p>Motu Prioprio? Apostolic Constitution?</p><p>Perhaps entitle it "Viri Probati".</p><p>But none of the married deacons expected it.</p><p>40,000 deacons. Already Viri Probati.</p><p>Choose viri probati married deacons to be viri probati married priests.</p><p>Add many or some fruitful deacons to the Order of Presbyter.</p><p>Permanent: Not intending to be priests.</p><p>From permanent deacon.</p><p>To transitional deacon. </p><p>Some of them.</p><p>Their probation period. As a married transitional deacon.</p><p>To prepare them as Viri Probati priests.</p><p>Married. </p><p>Tested.</p><p>Proven.</p><p>Not 18 year old seminarians. </p><p>But mature, older men. Elders. </p><p>In the person of Christ the Servant.</p><p>They bring Christ's servanthood.</p><p>Who came to serve and not be served.</p><p>Real servanthood.</p><p>Real sweat and blood.</p><p>With the poor.</p><p>The neglected.</p><p>Widows.</p><p>Orphans.</p><p>Like the first deacons they served.</p><p>And also today the deacons serve the widows and orphans who need the Eucharist.</p><p>Who need absolution of their sins.</p><p>Who need Holy anointing and Last Rites.</p><p>And family life they bring.</p><p>From the Dalmatic of Justice.</p><p>From the Order of Deacon. Levite.</p><p>To the Order of Priest. To the Chausible of the Sacred Presbyterate. </p><p>To the person of Christ the Head.</p><p>In persona Christi.</p><p>To save souls.</p><p><br /></p><p>If a married man is not a deacon, and he desires the priesthood, them let him serve in the diaconate. For a time.</p><p>1 year?</p><p>3 years? 5 years? More? Up to the bishop.</p><p>But let him be fruitful in the diaconate first.</p><p>As Cardinal Schonborn said: Permanent diaconate is like a "laboratory".</p><p>Tested.</p><p>Under a microscope.</p><p>Under a microscope even before admission to deacon formation.</p><p>Under a microscope during 5-6 years of deacon formation.</p><p>Under a microscope after ordination.</p><p>Look for your married priests in this laboratory of tests, pokes and prods, and microscopes.</p><p>No need to reinvent the wheel. Start with the married deacons.</p><p>And discern.</p><p>Viri Probati.</p><p><br /></p><p>And then they come with wives. They come with tested family life.</p><p>Wives, the feminine element.</p><p>Surpassing the petrine element.</p><p>Holiness is superior to the priesthood.</p><p>Mothers.</p><p>Mothers of the parish.</p><p>Wives of deacons.</p><p>Wives of men in Holy Orders.</p><p>The image of the Church married to Jesus.</p><p><br /></p><p>The conversations are taking place once again. </p><p>In 2023.</p><p>Just like in 2020.</p><p>And in those 3 years, what did those against married priests in the Latin Rite say?</p><p>We learned.</p><p>We listened.</p><p>We studied.</p><p>The best case was put forward against married priests in the Latin Rite.</p><p>But the position against restoring married priests were not strong enough.</p><p>Is that it?</p><p>Is that all you have?</p><p>Even with all that, the Church by virtue of the power of the keys...</p><p>can dispense.</p><p>Nothing new. </p><p>Nothing substantial against a restored married priesthood in the Latin Rite today.</p><p>Same as 2019. Same as 2023.</p><p><<<yawn>>></p><p>The Ontologicalist Error, the position that celibacy-continence is essential to the priesthood, we found bordered on heresy. </p><p>And how bitter they seemed. Unhappy.</p><p>But others came out and supported married priests.</p><p>What was new is that married priests are possible once again in the Latin Rite.</p><p>We learned. We discerned.</p><p>It's not Modernism. It's not a Protestant thing. It's not caving in to the secular world.</p><p>Married priests isn't just a liberal issue. It's not just a conservative issue.</p><p>It's a Catholic issue.</p><p>Feed the flock!</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>So restore married priests in the Latin Rite? </p><p>Restored...</p><p>...restored alongside celibate priests whom we love dearly. </p><p>Who lived 812 years of mandated celibacy in the West. From Lateran II in 1139 AD to Pius XII in 1952 AD. </p><p>In the Roman Rite.</p><p>Celibacy/continence. We learned. Not of the essence of the priesthood.</p><p><br /></p><p>As for Apostolic Tradition. Needed in both West and East to be so.</p><p>What can change?</p><p>What can be dispensed by authority of the Church?</p><p>What cannot be dispensed by authority of the Church?</p><p><br /></p><p>Capital T. Sacred Tradition. - Cannot dispense. Example: Priesthood for males.</p><p>Little t. Like the traditions of the Church. - Can dispense. Example: Celibacy/Continence.</p><p><br /></p><p>Mandated celibacy in the West. Lord, do you want us to continue in the current way?</p><p>You who give us shepherds to feed us?</p><p>You who feed the flock through Peter?</p><p>To feed us Your Body and Blood?</p><p>Feed us with your holy priests!</p><p>Lord, grant us married priests we beseech Thee.</p><p><br /></p><p>But if You don't want it, Lord, destroy our efforts.</p><p>Accepto.</p><p><br /></p><p>Is this what You want in the Latin Rite?</p><p><br /></p><p>Souls.</p><p>The salvation of souls.</p><p>The salvation of souls is the supreme law of the Church.</p><p>Is there a way forward?</p><p><br /></p><p>...</p><p>So yes.</p><p><br /></p><p>Silence.</p><p>Silence for 3 years.</p><p><br /></p><p>Discernment.</p><p><br /></p><p>Prayer. </p><p><br /></p><p>And now action.</p><p><br /></p><p>Your Holiness/Eminences/Excellencies, we ask you:</p><p>By virtue of your power to bind and loose.</p><p>Dispense married deacons.</p><p>Use Canon 1047.</p><p>Or any other relevant canon.</p><p>Or ecclesial decree.</p><p>Respecting celibacy as the Latin Rite modern norm.</p><p>Reaffirm dispensation from celibacy and thereby continence.</p><p>Discern after suitable formation.</p><p>Train.</p><p>Teach.</p><p>Prepare.</p><p>Taking into account the good of the Faithful.</p><p>The presence of a just and reasonable cause.</p><p>And given the circumstances of each case.</p><p>Call.</p><p>A portion of your married sons tested and proven in the Order of Deacon.</p><p>To lay upon their unworthy heads.</p><p>Your sacred and anointed hands.</p><p>The hands of Christ the High Priest.</p><p>And admit them.</p><p>With the sacred prayer of the Church.</p><p>Anoint them.</p><p>Bless them.</p><p>And send them.</p><p>To God's people.</p><p>To a broken world.</p><p>To married and family life torn asunder by the evil one.</p><p>To the priesthood torn asunder by the evil one.</p><p>To a restored tradition.</p><p>To the ancient norm of the married priesthood of Jesus Christ.</p><p>Jesus Christ the Married Bridegroom.</p><p>Lover of His wife, the Church.</p><p>A great mystery!</p><p>And ordain these sons of Levite.</p><p>To the Order of Presbyter.</p><p>In Jesus' name.</p><p>We pray.</p><p>Amen.</p><p><br /></p><p>Mary, Queen of the Clergy, pray for us!</p><p>Quo vadis, Domine?</p><p><br /></p><p></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; 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</div><div><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;">"You are a priest forever in the line of Melchizedek."</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;">Melchizedek means "King of Righteousness"</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>If Melchizedek is Shem, as Jewish tradition & the Fathers of the Church & solid modern Catholic biblical scholars like Scott Hahn and John Bergsma assert, then the priesthood of Jesus Christ (as affirmed in the Letter to the Hebrews) literally and historically has roots in the <i><b><u style="background-color: #fcff01;">MARRIED priesthood of Melchizedek</u></b></i>.</div><div><br /></div><div>Shem is the first-born son of Noah: "When <u><b>Noah</b> </u>was five hundred years old, he became the father of <b><u>Shem</u></b>, Ham and Japheth" (Gen. 5:32).</div><div><br /></div><div>"The <span style="background-color: #fcff01;">descendants of <u><b>Shem</b></u></span> were Elam, Asshur, Arpachshad, Lud, and Aram" (1 Chronicles 1:17a). <--- Shem had sons and thus <i>logically</i> would have been married to beget sons in this verse and <i>theologically</i> would be the foundation of a married Catholic priesthood in the Latin rite. </div><div><br /></div><div>[If one were to even insist the theological foundation of the married priesthood goes to Adam, from where Shem / Melchizedek comes (outside the scope of this writing here for now), that would be acceptable as well.]</div><div><br /></div><div>"<b><u>Shem</u></b>, Arpachshad, Shelah, Eber, Peleg, Reu, Serug, Nahor, Terah, Abram, who was <u><b>Abraham</b></u>. The sons of Abraham were Isaac and Ishmael" (1 Chronicles 1:24-28).</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;"><b style="background-color: #fcff01;"><u>Adam</u> ---> <u>Noah</u> ---> <u>Shem / Melchizedek</u> ---> <u>Abraham</u> ---> <u>St. Joseph</u> ---> <u>Jesus of Nazareth</u></b></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>EXCERPT:</div><div><div class="td-post-author-name" style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #444444; display: inline-block; float: left; font-family: "Open Sans", arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; position: relative; top: 2px;"><div class="td-author-by" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; margin-right: 2px;">By</div> <a href="https://catholicinsight.com/author/joshua-francis-filipetto/" style="background-color: transparent; box-sizing: border-box; color: black; font-weight: 700; margin-right: 3px; outline: none; text-decoration-line: none;">Joshua Francis Filipetto</a><div class="td-author-line" style="box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; margin-right: 2px;"> -</div></div><div><span style="background-color: white; color: #444444; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 11px;">May 27, 2022: </span><a href="https://catholicinsight.com/joseph-a-priest-according-to-the-order-of-melchizedek/">https://catholicinsight.com/joseph-a-priest-according-to-the-order-of-melchizedek/</a> (downloaded on 1/28/2023)</div></div><div><br /></div><div>...</div><div><br /></div><div><p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 15px; line-height: 26px; margin-bottom: 26px; margin-top: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><span style="background-color: white;">First, who is Melchizedek? Why does this man styled as the “King of Salem” and whose name means “King of Righteousness”<a href="https://catholicinsight.com/joseph-a-priest-according-to-the-order-of-melchizedek/#_ftn3" name="_ftnref3" style="background-color: transparent; box-sizing: border-box; color: #1c357c; text-decoration-line: none;">[3]</a> only appear once in the book of Genesis for a brief encounter with Abraham, never to appear again? Well, the reader may be surprised to know that Melchizedek does appear more than once in the book of Genesis; in fact, he appears <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">earlier</em> in the book of Genesis, albeit under a different name. For Melchizedek actually makes his <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">first</em> appearance not as the righteous priest-king of Salem, but rather as the </span><span style="background-color: #fcff01;">firstborn son of Noah the Patriarch, whose name is Shem</span><span style="background-color: white;">.</span><a href="https://catholicinsight.com/joseph-a-priest-according-to-the-order-of-melchizedek/#_ftn4" name="_ftnref4" style="background-color: transparent; box-sizing: border-box; color: #1c357c; text-decoration-line: none;">[4]</a></p><p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 15px; line-height: 26px; margin-bottom: 26px; margin-top: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><span style="background-color: white;">How do we know that Melchizedek is the same person as Shem? We know this most recently from the consensus of </span><span style="background-color: #fcff01;">modern Catholic biblical scholars such as Scott Hahn,<a href="https://catholicinsight.com/joseph-a-priest-according-to-the-order-of-melchizedek/#_ftn5" name="_ftnref5" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #1c357c; text-decoration-line: none;">[5]</a> John Bergsma,<a href="https://catholicinsight.com/joseph-a-priest-according-to-the-order-of-melchizedek/#_ftn6" name="_ftnref6" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #1c357c; text-decoration-line: none;">[6]</a> Brant Pitre,<a href="https://catholicinsight.com/joseph-a-priest-according-to-the-order-of-melchizedek/#_ftn7" name="_ftnref7" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #1c357c; text-decoration-line: none;">[7]</a> and Steven Smith</span><span style="background-color: white;">.</span><a href="https://catholicinsight.com/joseph-a-priest-according-to-the-order-of-melchizedek/#_ftn8" name="_ftnref8" style="background-color: transparent; box-sizing: border-box; color: #1c357c; text-decoration-line: none;">[8]</a><span style="background-color: white;"> Moreover, the a</span><span style="background-color: #fcff01;">ncient Jewish tradition</span><span style="background-color: white;"> almost </span><em style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box;">unanimously </em><span style="background-color: white;">identified Shem and Melchizedek as the same person;</span><a href="https://catholicinsight.com/joseph-a-priest-according-to-the-order-of-melchizedek/#_ftn9" name="_ftnref9" style="background-color: transparent; box-sizing: border-box; color: #1c357c; text-decoration-line: none;">[9]</a><span style="background-color: white;"> for both the </span><em style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box;">Targums</em><span style="background-color: white;"> — which were the ancient translations of the Jewish Scriptures into Aramaic, the language that the Jews spoke during the time of Jesus — and the </span><span style="background-color: #fcff01;">later rabbinic tradition</span><span style="background-color: white;"> both </span><em style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box;">regularly</em><span style="background-color: white;"> and </span><em style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box;">consistently</em><span style="background-color: white;"> identify Shem and Melchizedek as being the same person.</span><a href="https://catholicinsight.com/joseph-a-priest-according-to-the-order-of-melchizedek/#_ftn10" name="_ftnref10" style="background-color: transparent; box-sizing: border-box; color: #1c357c; text-decoration-line: none;">[10]</a><span style="background-color: white;"> Further, the </span><span style="background-color: #fcff01;">Christian tradition — which is made up of the Fathers of the Church and of the Scholastic Theologians</span><span style="background-color: white;"> — was nearly just as unanimous as the Jewish tradition was on this point of the identity of Shem-Melchizedek.</span><a href="https://catholicinsight.com/joseph-a-priest-according-to-the-order-of-melchizedek/#_ftn11" name="_ftnref11" style="background-color: transparent; box-sizing: border-box; color: #1c357c; text-decoration-line: none;">[11]</a><span style="background-color: white;"> Among the various Church Fathers that identified Shem with Melchizedek,</span><a href="https://catholicinsight.com/joseph-a-priest-according-to-the-order-of-melchizedek/#_ftn12" name="_ftnref12" style="background-color: transparent; box-sizing: border-box; color: #1c357c; text-decoration-line: none;">[12]</a><span style="background-color: white;"> we have </span><span style="background-color: #fcff01;">Saint Jerome</span><span style="background-color: white;"> who supported the thesis that Shem is Melchizedek,</span><a href="https://catholicinsight.com/joseph-a-priest-according-to-the-order-of-melchizedek/#_ftn13" name="_ftnref13" style="background-color: transparent; box-sizing: border-box; color: #1c357c; text-decoration-line: none;">[13]</a><span style="background-color: white;"> and also </span><span style="background-color: #fcff01;">Saint Ephrem the Syrian</span><span style="background-color: white;"> who also accepted this position, writing the following:</span></p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 15px; line-height: 26px; margin-bottom: 26px; margin-top: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><em style="box-sizing: border-box;">This Melchizedek is Shem</em>, who became a king due to his greatness; he was the head of fourteen nations. In addition, “he was a priest.” He received [his priesthood] <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">from Noah, his father,</em> through the rites of succession. Shem lived not only to the time of Abraham, as Scripture says, but even to [the time of] Jacob and Esau.<a href="https://catholicinsight.com/joseph-a-priest-according-to-the-order-of-melchizedek/#_ftn14" name="_ftnref14" style="background-color: transparent; box-sizing: border-box; color: #1c357c; text-decoration-line: none;">[14]</a></p><p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 15px; line-height: 26px; margin-bottom: 26px; margin-top: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><span style="background-color: white;">Further, the eminent Scholastic Theologian </span><span style="background-color: #fcff01;">Saint Thomas Aquinas</span><span style="background-color: white;"> also accepted the tradition that Shem is Melchizedek in his commentary on Saint Paul’s Letter to the Hebrews. Here, the Angelic Doctor writes that:</span></p><p style="background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 15px; line-height: 26px; margin-bottom: 26px; margin-top: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;">For so the Scripture names [Melchizedek] in Genesis (Gen 14:18), where his history, which the Apostle supposes here, is recorded. <em style="box-sizing: border-box;">According to a Gloss, the Hebrews say that this was Shem, the first-born of Noah,</em> and when Abraham obtained the victory, he was 390 or 309 years old and met Abraham, his nephew.<a href="https://catholicinsight.com/joseph-a-priest-according-to-the-order-of-melchizedek/#_ftn15" name="_ftnref15" style="background-color: transparent; box-sizing: border-box; color: #1c357c; text-decoration-line: none;">[15]</a></p><p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 15px; line-height: 26px; margin-bottom: 26px; margin-top: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><span style="background-color: white;">Lastly, the </span><span style="background-color: #fcff01;"><em style="box-sizing: border-box;">Glossa Ordinaria </em>— which was the medieval compendium</span><span style="background-color: white;"> or collection of the various glosses or commentaries of the Church Fathers on Scripture — also affirms the identification of Shem with Melchizedek, writing that “the Hebrews say this Melchizedek was Shem son of Noah, who lived until Isaac.”</span><a href="https://catholicinsight.com/joseph-a-priest-according-to-the-order-of-melchizedek/#_ftn16" name="_ftnref16" style="background-color: transparent; box-sizing: border-box; color: #1c357c; text-decoration-line: none;">[16]</a><span style="background-color: white;"> The </span><span style="background-color: #fcff01;">Christian tradition’s possible unanimity</span><span style="background-color: white;"> or consensus on this topic is a particularly compelling point about the identity of Shem-Melchizedek, given the </span><span style="background-color: #fcff01;">unanimity of the Fathers</span><span style="background-color: white;">. </span></p><p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #222222; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 15px; line-height: 26px; margin-bottom: 26px; margin-top: 0px; overflow-wrap: break-word;"><span style="background-color: white;">...</span></p></div><div><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;">* * *</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;">Other sources (Catholic & non-Catholic):</div><div style="text-align: center;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">John Bergsma & John Pitre, <i>A Catholic Introduction to the Bible: The Old Testament </i>(Ignatius Press, 2018): https://www.amazon.com/Catholic-Introduction-Bible-Old-Testament/dp/1586177222?asin=B07H46F524&revisionId=1e5c2668&format=1&depth=2</div><div style="text-align: left;"><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;">"Joseph, a Priest According to the Order of Melchizedek" b<div class="td-author-by" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #444444; display: inline; font-family: "Open Sans", arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; margin-right: 2px;">y</div><span face=""Open Sans", arial, sans-serif" style="background-color: white; color: #444444; font-size: 11px;"> </span><a href="https://catholicinsight.com/author/joshua-francis-filipetto/" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: black; font-family: "Open Sans", arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; font-weight: 700; margin-right: 3px; outline: none; text-decoration-line: none;">Joshua Francis Filipetto</a><div class="td-author-line" style="box-sizing: border-box; color: #444444; display: inline; font-family: "Open Sans", arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11px; margin-right: 2px;"> -</div></div><span style="background-color: white; color: #444444; font-family: "Open Sans"; font-size: 11px;">May 27, 2022<a href="https://catholicinsight.com/joseph-a-priest-according-to-the-order-of-melchizedek/"> </a></span><a href="https://catholicinsight.com/joseph-a-priest-according-to-the-order-of-melchizedek/">https://catholicinsight.com/joseph-a-priest-according-to-the-order-of-melchizedek/</a> (downloaded on 1/28/2023)<br /><div><br /></div><div>Arguments for and against: https://amazingbibletimeline.com/blog/melchizedek-and-shem/</div><div><br /></div><div>Msgr. Charles Pope (does not favor married priests in Latin rite): https://cathstan.org/posts/who-was-melchizedek </div>Married Priesthoodhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14238013437314974645noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8937002989148823720.post-10181109157130461192020-06-30T21:33:00.000-07:002020-06-30T23:10:06.678-07:00Roman Cholij Changes Mind & Now Supports Married Eastern Priests: "This view represents a substantial development and change in my ecclesiological thinking since the time of writing my J.C.D. dissertation, subsequently published as 'Clerical Celibacy in East and West,' esp. pp. 179-192 [Footnote #53].<div>Source: <a href="https://forums.catholic.com/t/article-on-celibacy-married-clergy-by-roman-cholij/277654">https://forums.catholic.com/t/article-on-celibacy-married-clergy-by-roman-cholij/277654</a> (30 June 2020)<br></div><div><br></div><div>Credit: Byz _Guy</div><div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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</div><p style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-size: 15.008px; letter-spacing: normal; background-color: rgb(250, 250, 250);">by Roman M.T. Cholij, published in <em>Eastern Churches Journal</em>, Summer 1997</p><p style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-size: 15.008px; letter-spacing: normal; background-color: rgb(250, 250, 250);"><strong>In the article, Cholij breaks with his previous views and upholds the right of Eastern Churches to have a married clergy without papal interference.</strong> Previously, he had held to a view that Rome had the authority to approve or deny the Eastern tradition as it was considered to have been developed improperly while the Eastern Churches were in schism. Therefore, he had believed, Rome could either tolerate the Eastern tradition or legitimately forbid it. **Many who cite Cholij’s earlier writings on mandatory priestly celibacy are not aware of his change of views. **The reversal of his view can be seen here:</p><p style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-size: 15.008px; letter-spacing: normal; background-color: rgb(250, 250, 250);">From pp. 49-50:</p><blockquote readability="11" style="border-left: 5px solid rgb(233, 233, 233); background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237); clear: both; padding: 10px 8px 10px 13px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-size: 15.008px; letter-spacing: normal;"><p style="margin-top: 0px !important; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;">Thus the ecclesiological<br>suppositions of the times when the decrees prohibiting married<br>clergy were issued must be seen to have been defective. It should<br>also be stated that the constitutional rights of a Church <em>sui iuris</em> cannot<br>be removed by an administrative decree of a Congregation of the<br>Roman Curia. If a married clergy is such a right (which is what the<br>Eastern Churches do consider it to be, and which the Vatican Council<br>seems to implicitly affirm), as opposed to a privilege granted by Rome,<br>then there is serious objection to the lawfulness of any action which<br>restricts exercise of this right. 53</p></blockquote></div><div><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-size: 15.008px; letter-spacing: normal; background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);">[53] This view represents a substantial development and change in my ecclesiological</span><br style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-size: 15.008px; letter-spacing: normal; background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);"><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-size: 15.008px; letter-spacing: normal; background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);">thinking since the time of writing my J.C.D. dissertation, subsequently published</span><br style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-size: 15.008px; letter-spacing: normal; background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);"><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-size: 15.008px; letter-spacing: normal; background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);">as Clerical Celibacy in East and West, esp. pp. 179-192. A similar view is</span><br style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-size: 15.008px; letter-spacing: normal; background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);"><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-size: 15.008px; letter-spacing: normal; background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);">expressed in my article entitled “Celibacy, Married Clergy and the Oriental Code”</span><br style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-size: 15.008px; letter-spacing: normal; background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);"><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-size: 15.008px; letter-spacing: normal; background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);">(see note 2). Since writing this early work I have also been fortunate to have had</span><br style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-size: 15.008px; letter-spacing: normal; background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);"><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-size: 15.008px; letter-spacing: normal; background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);">the opportunity to do further studies: five years of research work in Eastern</span><br style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-size: 15.008px; letter-spacing: normal; background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);"><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-size: 15.008px; letter-spacing: normal; background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);">Christian Studies at the University of Oxford under the tutorship and supervision</span><br style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-size: 15.008px; letter-spacing: normal; background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);"><span style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-size: 15.008px; letter-spacing: normal; background-color: rgb(237, 237, 237);">of Dr. Kallistos Ware of Pembroke College.</span><br></div>Married Priesthoodhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14238013437314974645noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8937002989148823720.post-8740183805907853182020-06-29T22:59:00.001-07:002020-06-30T06:09:27.579-07:00Married clergy saints: St. Cassius of Narni, husband of wife named Fausta, pray for us. 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</div></div><div><br></div><div>St. Paul VI, Sacerdotalis Celibatus, no. 5 (24 June 2020):</div><div><p align="CENTER" style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Segoe, sans-serif !important;">OBJECTIONS AGAINST PRIESTLY CELIBACY</p><p style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Segoe, sans-serif !important;">5. It may be said that today ecclesiastical celibacy has been examined more penetratingly than ever before and in all its aspects. It has been examined from the doctrinal, historical, sociological, psychological and pastoral point of view. The intentions prompting this examination have frequently been basically correct although reports may sometimes have distorted them.</p><p style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Segoe, sans-serif !important;">Let us look openly at the principal objections against the law that links ecclesiastical celibacy with the priesthood.</p><p style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Segoe, sans-serif !important;">The first seems to come from the most authoritative source, the New Testament which preserves the teaching of Christ and the Apostles. It does not openly demand celibacy of sacred ministers but proposes it rather as a free act of obedience to a special vocation or to a special spiritual gift. (2) Jesus Himself did not make it a prerequisite in His choice of the Twelve, nor did the Apostles for those who presided over the first Christian communities. (3)</p><p style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Segoe, sans-serif !important;">-------</p><p style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Segoe, sans-serif !important;">(2) See <i>Mt</i> 19. 11-12.</p><p style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Segoe, sans-serif !important;">(3) See 1 <i>Tm</i> 3. 2-5; <i>Ti</i> 1. 5-6.</p></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>Married Priesthoodhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14238013437314974645noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8937002989148823720.post-1379851454274925022020-06-24T19:34:00.000-07:002020-06-24T19:34:36.819-07:00St. Zachariah, married priest of the Old Testament who fathered St. John the Baptist after consecration as a priest, & husband of St. Elizabeth (a priest's wife), pray for us. St. John the Baptist, son of a #marriedpriest of the Old Covenant, pray for us.<span class="css-901oao css-16my406 r-1qd0xha r-ad9z0x r-bcqeeo r-qvutc0" style="border: 0px solid black; box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(20, 23, 26); display: inline; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 21px; line-height: 1.3125; font-family: system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Ubuntu, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; overflow-wrap: break-word; min-width: 0px; letter-spacing: normal;">St. Zachariah, married priest of the Old Testament who fathered St. John the Baptist after consecration as a priest, & husband of St. Elizabeth (a priest's wife), pray for us.
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Please read and learn some of the history of clerical marriage which was optional from Apostolic times. There were several married popes who fathered children and grandchildren who later became priests, bishops and popes!</p><p style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #2a2e2e; font-family: Georgia, Times, serif; font-size: 15px; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 21px; margin: 0px 0px 15px; padding: 0px;">This history taken from Wikipedia is only partial.</p><p style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #2a2e2e; font-family: Georgia, Times, serif; font-size: 15px; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 21px; margin: 0px 0px 15px; padding: 0px;">Marriage and Celibacy in the Catholic Church<br style="box-sizing: border-box;" />From the exhaustive research of<br style="box-sizing: border-box;" />Clerical celibacy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia</p><p style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #2a2e2e; font-family: Georgia, Times, serif; font-size: 15px; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 21px; margin: 0px 0px 15px; padding: 0px;">George T. Dennis SJ of Catholic University of America<br style="box-sizing: border-box;" />Peter Fink SJ<br style="box-sizing: border-box;" />Protestant historian Philip Schaff</p><p style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #2a2e2e; font-family: Georgia, Times, serif; font-size: 15px; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 21px; margin: 0px 0px 15px; padding: 0px;">Celibacy was voluntary, not imposed, in the early apostolic church:<br style="box-sizing: border-box;" />Mt 19,12 Jesus….”some, because they have renounced marriage for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Whosoever can accept this ought to accept it.”</p><p style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #2a2e2e; font-family: Georgia, Times, serif; font-size: 15px; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 21px; margin: 0px 0px 15px; padding: 0px;">Some of the apostles were married as St. Peter, Simeon:<br style="box-sizing: border-box;" />Mk 1, 30 and Lk 4,38 Jesus heals Peter’s mother-in-law of fever</p><p style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #2a2e2e; font-family: Georgia, Times, serif; font-size: 15px; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 21px; margin: 0px 0px 15px; padding: 0px;">Phillip, one of the first seven deacons ordained in Jerusalem, had four unmarried daughters who had the gift of prophecy. Acts 21, 8-9.</p><p style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #2a2e2e; font-family: Georgia, Times, serif; font-size: 15px; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 21px; margin: 0px 0px 15px; padding: 0px;">St. Paul’s letters indicate bishops, presbyters, deacons were married with children:</p><p style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #2a2e2e; font-family: Georgia, Times, serif; font-size: 15px; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 21px; margin: 0px 0px 15px; padding: 0px;">St. Paul implies the apostles and brothers of the Lord were married and he was free to marry and have a wife (gunaika) with him on his journeys just as they did.<br style="box-sizing: border-box;" />1 Cor 9.5 Do we not have the right to take along a sister (adelphe), a wife (gunaika), as do the rest of the apostles, and the brothers of the Lord and Cephas (St. Peter)?</p><p style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #2a2e2e; font-family: Georgia, Times, serif; font-size: 15px; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 21px; margin: 0px 0px 15px; padding: 0px;">I Tim 3.1-2-4 Presiding elder (episcopos, ordained by imposition of hands, power from God) “must not be married more than once…having children….manage his own family. The literal Koine Greek of the New Testament reads, “the bishop (episkopon )….to be a husband of one wife (gunaikos)…”</p><p style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #2a2e2e; font-family: Georgia, Times, serif; font-size: 15px; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 21px; margin: 0px 0px 15px; padding: 0px;">Ti 1, 5-6 “….appoint presbyters (elders=priests=episcopoi) in every town on condition that a man be blameless, married only once….with believing children…” The literal Koine Greek of the New Testament is “ …the elders…(presbuterous) to be a husband of one wife (gunaikos)…”</p><p style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #2a2e2e; font-family: Georgia, Times, serif; font-size: 15px; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 21px; margin: 0px 0px 15px; padding: 0px;">In the third century, there is simply no clear evidence of a general tradition or practice, much less of an obligation, of priestly celibacy-continence before the beginning of the third century. There is no clear evidence that celibacy had apostolic origins. During the first three or four centuries no law was promulgated prohibiting clerical marriage. Celibacy was a matter of choice for bishops, priests and deacons. As Paul’s letters indicate, there was no obligation to celibacy after marriage, since they had children.</p><p style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #2a2e2e; font-family: Georgia, Times, serif; font-size: 15px; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 21px; margin: 0px 0px 15px; padding: 0px;">Third century records a number of third century married bishops in good standing and c414, clerical marriage was in vogue. Only after the third century bishops, priests, deacons were not to have intercourse ONLY before partaking of the Eucharist.</p><p style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #2a2e2e; font-family: Georgia, Times, serif; font-size: 15px; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 21px; margin: 0px 0px 15px; padding: 0px;">St. Hilary of Poitiers 315-68, Doctor of the Church, was a married bishop and had a daughter named Apra.</p><p style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #2a2e2e; font-family: Georgia, Times, serif; font-size: 15px; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 21px; margin: 0px 0px 15px; padding: 0px;">Popes of the fourth, fifth, sixth centuries:<br style="box-sizing: border-box;" />--Father of Pope Damasus I 366-84 was a bishop.<br style="box-sizing: border-box;" />--Pope Felix III 483-92 whose father was almost certainly a priest, was the great-great grandfather of Pope Gregory I the Great 590-604.<br style="box-sizing: border-box;" />--Pope Hormisdas 514-23 was the father of Pope Silverius 536-37</p><p style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #2a2e2e; font-family: Georgia, Times, serif; font-size: 15px; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 21px; margin: 0px 0px 15px; padding: 0px;">Except for periods before celebrating the Divine Liturgy, conjugal relations, by priests and deacons married before ordination, were allowed. Celibacy and perpetual continence was mandated only for bishops.</p><p style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #2a2e2e; font-family: Georgia, Times, serif; font-size: 15px; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 21px; margin: 0px 0px 15px; padding: 0px;">In the tenth century, most priests were married, lived with their wives and raised families and ordination was not an impediment to marriage. Therefore, some priests did marry after ordination and most rural priests were married and many priests and bishops had wives and children.</p><p style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #2a2e2e; font-family: Georgia, Times, serif; font-size: 15px; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 21px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;">It was at the Lateran Council (1123), Canon 3 forbid the clergy to live with women other than family relations. Canon 21 absolutely forbid marriage after ordination.</p><p style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #2a2e2e; font-family: Georgia, Times, serif; font-size: 15px; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 21px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><br /></p><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;"><a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhUlFLJoZyy4gFeEPCVDtrcEEaFZADvJiz3-LkeJvQ7NStjWx11fTyhLgoB_vBwacKw-0xNzMUcPUTbIMcIiKQJeK5qcO1tUe0mIDHQBN9WIwMIornNkxXb5zzpYKj09WUZZcDT5Gn3bdOHANkA3MmKOqkjOuP85luehtw-G3nzdABFtREo6dDQR2OOzQ/s1129/97068035_111193720596888_8271973468677865472_n.jpg" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em;"><img border="0" data-original-height="1129" data-original-width="847" height="320" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhUlFLJoZyy4gFeEPCVDtrcEEaFZADvJiz3-LkeJvQ7NStjWx11fTyhLgoB_vBwacKw-0xNzMUcPUTbIMcIiKQJeK5qcO1tUe0mIDHQBN9WIwMIornNkxXb5zzpYKj09WUZZcDT5Gn3bdOHANkA3MmKOqkjOuP85luehtw-G3nzdABFtREo6dDQR2OOzQ/s320/97068035_111193720596888_8271973468677865472_n.jpg" width="240" /></a></div><br /><p style="border: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; color: #2a2e2e; font-family: Georgia, Times, serif; font-size: 15px; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 21px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px;"><br /></p></div>Married Priesthoodhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14238013437314974645noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8937002989148823720.post-2720550847322711422020-06-09T23:21:00.001-07:002020-06-09T23:21:17.704-07:00Theology of Priest's Wife (Pani Matka) as Spiritual Mother: "The vocation of the priest’s wife, Fr. Galadza said, draws upon the example of the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Theotokos, whose presence is felt & who tells Jesus Christ of parish needs."<span class="css-901oao css-16my406 r-1qd0xha r-ad9z0x r-bcqeeo r-qvutc0" style="border: 0px solid black; box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 21px; line-height: 1.3125; font-family: system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Ubuntu, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; overflow-wrap: break-word; min-width: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; background-color: rgb(21, 32, 43);">"The vocation of the priest’s </span><span class="r-18u37iz" style="-webkit-box-direction: normal; -webkit-box-orient: horizontal; flex-direction: row; color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Ubuntu, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: normal; white-space: pre-wrap; background-color: rgb(21, 32, 43);"><a href="https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/wife?src=hashtag_click" dir="ltr" role="link" data-focusable="true" class="css-4rbku5 css-18t94o4 css-901oao css-16my406 r-1n1174f r-1loqt21 r-1qd0xha r-ad9z0x r-bcqeeo r-qvutc0" style="cursor: pointer; background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); color: rgb(27, 149, 224); font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: inherit; line-height: 1.3125; list-style: none; margin: 0px; text-align: inherit; text-decoration-line: none; border: 0px solid black; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; padding: 0px; white-space: inherit; overflow-wrap: break-word; min-width: 0px;">#wife</a></span><span class="css-901oao css-16my406 r-1qd0xha r-ad9z0x r-bcqeeo r-qvutc0" style="border: 0px solid black; box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(255, 255, 255); display: inline; font-variant-numeric: inherit; font-variant-east-asian: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: 21px; line-height: 1.3125; font-family: system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Ubuntu, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; white-space: pre-wrap; overflow-wrap: break-word; min-width: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; background-color: rgb(21, 32, 43);">, Fr. Galadza said, draws upon the example of the </span><span class="r-18u37iz" style="-webkit-box-direction: normal; -webkit-box-orient: horizontal; flex-direction: row; color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: system-ui, -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, "Segoe UI", Roboto, Ubuntu, "Helvetica Neue", sans-serif; font-size: 21px; letter-spacing: normal; white-space: pre-wrap; background-color: rgb(21, 32, 43);"><a href="https://mobile.twitter.com/hashtag/BlessedVirginMary?src=hashtag_click" dir="ltr" role="link" data-focusable="true" class="css-4rbku5 css-18t94o4 css-901oao css-16my406 r-1n1174f r-1loqt21 r-1qd0xha r-ad9z0x r-bcqeeo r-qvutc0" style="cursor: pointer; background-color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0); color: rgb(27, 149, 224); font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-weight: inherit; font-stretch: inherit; font-size: inherit; line-height: 1.3125; list-style: none; margin: 0px; text-align: inherit; text-decoration-line: none; border: 0px solid black; box-sizing: border-box; display: inline; 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It must, however, be possible to ordain religiously proven and theologically educated family fathers, not only in remote areas but also in huge city parishes, so that basic pastoral and liturgical practices can continue to be celebrated,” Müller emphasised.</p><p style="margin: 0px 0px 1em; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 18.6667px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-position: initial; background-size: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; letter-spacing: normal;">He explained: “A new concept of this kind would not contradict the Church’s tradition, as loyalty to tradition does not mean that the Church is only committed to past history but, on the contrary, far more to future history.”</p><p style="margin: 0px 0px 1em; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 18.6667px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-position: initial; background-size: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; letter-spacing: normal;">He then warned: “If the Church insists on holding on to obligatory celibacy under all circumstances, it must state the reasons as to why both the spiritual meaning and the assets of celibacy are of such importance to the Church that it is even prepared to hazard a decisive deformation of its constitution on account of the lack of priests.”</p><p style="margin: 0px 0px 1em; padding: 0px; border: 0px; outline: 0px; font-size: 18.6667px; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: initial; background-position: initial; background-size: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Georgia, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; letter-spacing: normal;">These views on celibacy stand in strong contrast to views he expressed during the Amazon Synod.</p>Married Priesthoodhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14238013437314974645noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8937002989148823720.post-46460802769520978562020-06-04T22:27:00.000-07:002020-06-04T22:37:35.323-07:00'Conservative' Primate of Australia (most senior clergy Down Under) Archbishop Anthony Fisher, O.P., Ph.D., Member of CDF, open to married priests; does not "absolutely exclude" Latin rite married priesthood in Australia; issues similar to other parts of world<div><div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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